Obama's Health Care Reform

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Is our current health care system falling apart and unsustainable? Is Obama's bill going to make an impact in improving the health care in the U.S.?

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MasterChief Posted on 30. Oct, 01:34 PM

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A government run health insurance option serves two essential goals of health care reform. It provides needed competition in places where a single private insurer dominates the market, and its national size gives it appropriate clout to drive a better deal with hospitals and drug companies.

Of the many goals of health care reform, bringing down costs is the most obvious benefit for all Americans. A public plan would achieve savings from not only its bargaining power but its lack of having to pay dividends or exorbitant private-sector executive salaries. With an immediately recognizable national brand, a public plan’s marketing costs would be lower. Competition with this public plan would force private insurers to get their costs down and adhere strictly to regulations forbidding insurers from excluding customers with preexisting conditions or charging them higher rates.

Critics of the public plan worry, with some merit, that the government could decide to subsidize the public plan at the expense of private insurers, but that’s a fear that may never come to pass: All the current proposals guarantee an even playing field. And it’s ironic that private insurers would extol the benefits of the free market, because in many states there is precious little competition now. According to the American Medical Association, a single insurer covers 70 percent or more of people in nine states, while in at least 17 other states a single insurer covers at least 50 percent. Virtually all reform proposals include an individual mandate, forcing the nation’s 47 million uninsured people to buy insurance. Congress should feel obligated to ensure they have more than just a single insurance provider to pick from.

Opponents of a public plan are quick to point to Massachusetts as a state that has achieved near-universal coverage without a public plan. But Massachusetts has had a long history of consumer-friendly regulation of health insurance. All its major insurers are nonprofits, functioning much as a public plan would. If all states had an insurance market like Massachusetts’, no one would be talking about including a public plan in national legislation.

An alternative to a public plan favored by some Senate Democrats is a proliferation of the health cooperatives that already exist, especially in the West. The most successful function like nonprofit health-maintenance organizations with networks of providers who emphasize preventive care and don’t engage in the over utilization of tests and procedures common among providers working on a fee-for-service basis.

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WilliamSqualus Posted on 17. Oct, 04:14 PM

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I really enjoy people who think Obama's plan sticks it to the insurance companies. These insurance companies are supporting the bill! They have crunched the numbers and realized this bill creates a lot of profit for them. There are a lot of people out there who are incorrectly labeling Obamacare as socialism. Those people are so obviously wrong, because what we have here is fascism. Fascism is the convergance of the state and corporations. In a fascist system you have private profits and public losses. Obamacare is no different then the banker bailout, it will use public money to enrich a select few, with perhaps some trickle down bread crumbs for the average person. So if you have insurance you may not have to pay for mamograms anymore, but your insurance premium will rise 50%. Crumby...

This plan is giving people tax credits so they can buy insurance. No wonder the insurance companies are for this. If I was selling something I would love the government to subsidize it. If I was a fascist anyway. The plan requires companies to give health insurance to their employees. At a time where unemployment is around 18 percent we are going to require companies to make workers more expensive? Sounds like a great way to increase unemployment even more. Another thing this plan does is require people who can "afford" health insurance to do so. Many of the people listed by Obama as not having insurance are either illegal aliens or people who can afford insurance, but choose not to get it. By requiring them to get it we are forcing people to give even more money to insurance companies. Do you see a theme here. I see a reoccuring theme of government force being used to make you buy a product.

All this plan does is subsidize and require the purchase of health insurance. Don't worry the government is going to make you pay more for insurance- absolutely free. One of the talking points about Obamacare is that it won't "add a dime to the defecit". I suppose that's true. It will add billions of dollars to the defecit, and billions are certainly not a dime. The government is already over 12 trillion dollars in debt (not including unfunded liabilities) but somehow adding another gigantic government program won't cost any money? Obama believes we're all fools. If this comes to be, he's right.

  • xVampyricx Posted on 16. Aug, 02:50 AM

    The new healthcare bill forces citizens to purchase it wether they can afford it or not, and if they cannot then they can be fined even more, or if it passes, they can be put into jail and face thousands of dollars in fines.

    Some people just can't afford it, and obamas dumbass doesnt know that.

    But there's more and its late.


  • WilliamSqualus Posted on 16. Nov, 09:21 PM

    You know the USPS is about to go bankrupt right? They'll need a bailout from Uncle Sugar soon enough. Fail.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9756MKG0&show_article=1&catnum=0


  • MasterChief Posted on 03. Nov, 10:38 AM

    It's about as much corporatism as it is having the USPS. You're assumption is that by mandating that all people get insurance, that everyone is going to buy a private plan. The bill if it contains the public option would be more competitive than most private insurers. You would have coverage that could not be denied, taken away or watered down at a later time based on illness. Many argue that the government is incapable of managing insurance. That they cannot manage the costs and will only add to the deficit. But if you look at another government run agency such as the USPS. Since 2004 it has netted over a billion dollars in yearly profits. Profits which not only make it self sustainable, but also able to expand to provide a better service all without contributing to the deficit and keeping competition alive and well.


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Obama's Health Care Reform


Obama's health care bill promises to deliver many reforms in the health care industry.  An excerpt  from the Obama campaign website gives the breakdown of the proposed benefits of passing the new bill.

If You Have Health Insurance, the Obama Plan:

  1. - Ends discrimination against people with pre-existing conditions.
  2. - Limits premium discrimination based on gender and age.
  3. - Prevents insurance companies from dropping coverage when people are sick and need it most.
  4. - Caps out-of-pocket expenses so people don’t go broke when they get sick.
  5. - Eliminates extra charges for preventive care like mammograms, flu shots and diabetes tests to improve health and save money.
  6. - Protects Medicare for seniors.
  7. - Eliminates the “donut-hole” gap in coverage for prescription drugs.

If You Don’t Have Insurance, the Obama Plan:

  1. - Creates a new insurance marketplace — the Exchange — that allows people without insurance and small businesses to compare plans and buy insurance at competitive prices.
  2. - Provides new tax credits to help people buy insurance.
  3. - Provides small businesses tax credits and affordable options for covering employees.
  4. - Offers a public health insurance option to provide the uninsured and those who can’t find affordable coverage with a real choice.
  5. - Immediately offers new, low-cost coverage through a national “high risk” pool to protect people with preexisting conditions from financial ruin until the new Exchange is created.

For All Americans, the Obama Plan:

  1. - Won’t add a dime to the deficit and is paid for upfront.
  2. - Requires additional cuts if savings are not realized.
  3. - Implements a number of delivery system reforms that begin to rein in health care costs and align incentives for hospitals, physicians, and others to improve quality.
  4. - Creates an independent commission of doctors and medical experts to identify waste, fraud and abuse in the health care system.
  5. - Orders immediate medical malpractice reform projects that could help doctors focus on putting their patients first, not on practicing defensive medicine.
  6. - Requires large employers to cover their employees and individuals who can afford it to buy insurance so everyone shares in the responsibility of reform.

-http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

But there are several problems with this. The health care bill proposes a government option for anyone to buy into. Or if you can't afford it a subsidy is provided to offset your costs. It is easy to think that when the government provides a service at no "cost" to you, that it is a free service. But there is in fact no such thing as free services from the government. The government doesn't earn any money, it can only gain money through taxing. Whether this is a direct tax, e.g. income tax, or an indirect tax such as inflationary tax by printing more money, the money always comes from the people. This means that in one way or another you or someone else is paying for this "free" health care. If the government run health care option isn't profitable enough to pay for the services it provides, then money from taxes will be used to pay the difference. This is true for all government run programs as there has yet to be a single profitable government run program to date.


Other claims of the bill being paid for by the estimated savings from such sources as malpractice reform and savings in premiums paid to insurers to cover the ER visits of the uninsured. But these savings are modest at best.

In an Oct. 9 letter to Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf said that a package of changes including limits on malpractice awards "would reduce total national health care spending by about 0.5 percent (about $11 billion in 2009)." - http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/malpractice-savings-reconsidered/

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